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Jay_sathe
9/27/2005 7:25:53 PM
Has anyone enabled the bluetooth phone options on LR3 after purchase? If yes what was the cost?
modyfyit
9/28/2005 12:30:22 AM
ahhh...... it is a mother f**ck*n b*tch... sorry not one to swear on public boards but coming from a tech it is very involved... dont know prices exactly but the labor that is involved cant be cheap
rinmud
10/1/2005 7:45:56 PM
Heres where you get F--Ked the assembly is around 300 to install its just a pin in set, the problem is the phones dont work your better off trying a local adware store (i am ashamed to say it) but they can do it half the price and the s--t will work, I cant figure the Jag system no problem:(
05LandRover
10/1/2005 8:16:16 PM
hell, just do what we in texas do, answer the damn phone and drive at the same time, it couldn't be more hard than chewing gum and walking at the same time.

if your state has laws against it, move to texas, we are your refuge!
gbh
12/12/2005 6:21:12 PM
Actually I just got an 06' HSE that works fine with no additional equipment on my Motorola V551. My salesmen originally had told me that it would not work without the kit. Well it does work. Spoke with him today and he said he was just informed that HSE that were made in the summer forward will now work without an additional kit.
bullitt411
12/14/2005 12:54:21 AM
I purchased an 05 HSE that was in the showroom recently and inquired about adding the Bluetooth Phone option. The dealer gave me a quote of 650.00 installed. My local dealer is Land Rover Massapequa in Long Island NY.

Dennis
drone dog
12/14/2005 9:18:18 PM
i am getting it put in. they told me 700 so we haggled it into the price. i won't be able to give you much of an update. i do not have a BT phone yet. but i figured it would be in the next phone.

Lisa
12/19/2005 7:52:38 PM
Why don't you folks just get a wireless earpiece when you get the bluetooth phone? That's what we did. It's a LOT cheaper than installing the kit in the LR3 and works great. Frankly, we've had enough problems with this car. We didnt' really want to ask for more by having the front end taken apart just to install a luxury item.
teekster
12/29/2005 10:48:26 PM
My dealer wanted $900 for the install + parts. I bought my wife a BT headset instead.
drone dog
1/9/2006 8:11:57 PM
Jay
i have gotten my dealer installed bluetooth. i do not have a phone of rit yet but i did try it with another phone. the (verizon) RAZR phone worked fine. it connected everytime. i stored a few name/numbers in the system to try all the features. the only problem i had was hanging up when i tried the end call button, it did not hang up but if i pulled both of them together, it hung up fine.
i have heard that a number of people have had success as well. i do not get caller ID or anything like that but that may be due to verizon.
hope that helps
the dog
HerbD
2/15/2006 11:39:10 PM
I've spent the past three weeks researching a Bluetooth phone to install in my 2006 LR3. The vehicle came with the factgory installed PTI fittings in the center console, however, you still need to purchase (about $250) a cradle that matches the phone you are using. There are several variations. The deal is that if you want the phone to attach to the antenna lead for the LR3 you get better reception and range, plus you get the phone's directory displayed on the navigation screen in the dashboard, you need the hookup in the console.

If you don't have navigation etc a regular Bluetooth phone should work as a cell phone.

The only places, so far, that I've found the cradles are:

http://www.bcdonline.com/Land%20Rover/Land%20Rover%20Approved%20Phones.htm or 562.500.1161

http://wireless4landrover.com/ or 800.266.7746

The Nokia 6230 seems like my best choice since I want to also take the phone to Cambodia this summer so I need a triband GSM unlocked with 900/1800/and 1900 frequencies, if you plan on just using it in the U.S. then an 850/1800/1900 would be better.

Jay_sathe
2/23/2006 6:16:58 PM
Thanks all for your feedback.
HerbD
3/9/2006 10:56:24 PM

Bluetooth phone update!

On 2/23/06 in an earlier posting I wrote about trying to find a cradle for adding a Bluetooth phone (Nokia 6230) to my LR3. Today it all came together and it works great. With the efforts of my dealer service representative and parts guy the missing link was installed.

The Rover came with factory installed Personal Telephone Integration System ($400.00 - window sticker price). After talking with the service rep at LR and with sales folks at the two URL's in the earlier posting, I decided that the Nokia had the best system integration as well as the features I wanted for use in SE Asia (GSM unlocked tri-band phone). I purchased the phone new online and bought a SIM chip that I can switch out as needed overseas. As a newer production run of the phone, the operating system did not match the recommended or guaranteed one in the Rover documents. The new phone is 05.50 op sys (documentation talks about 5.35 as only op sys that will work).

When I checked back with the dealer yesterday, the parts guy told me that LR did not actually list a cradle for the LR3, although there obviously is a connector in the center console. He had a cradle listed for the Range Rover and Sport that was for a Nokia 6230, howewver, and if I came by we could test the fit.

The cradle is LR part number XVE500021 Description Holder Assy - M

It clipped onto the underside of the cover on the center console, and does not interfere with the electric cooler or the tray that sits on top of the cooler.

The phone had previously been paired as a freestanding Bluetooth item, so when it was clipped into the cradle, it was recognized immediately. After a few minutes of experimenting, the sales rep found that the button just to the right and above the channel selector knob on the radio, which has a small phone handset icon on it, activated the phones directory through the radio display (I had mistakenly expected it to come through the navigation display). You or a passenger can scroll through the directory, and by pressing the button it will dial for you. The voice commands also work so the driver can say "Phone call (name) or (number)" and it works well.

The Rovers antenna also is connected via the cradle so you get better reception and sending in weak cell areas as well as having the phone battery charged. Removing the phone is easy, you press a button on the cradle and the phone pops out.

Thanks to the service rep and parts guy, it works as advertised and is very convenient.
socalr3
3/23/2006 12:41:23 PM
Unfortunately my 05' LR3 V8 LE needs to be fitted with a PTI system. Once fitted, any bluetooth phone with 5.35 op sys should work w/out the cradle. Based on your findings, the phone icon button only works if you have a cradle correct?

Your feedback is appreciated.
socalr3
3/23/2006 1:10:14 PM
gbh! I am assuming that the additional kit you are referring to is the cradle. Are you able to use the phone icon button? Are you happy with the system?

let us know! Thanks
HerbD
3/26/2006 1:59:13 PM
Good question socalr3. I'll check it out after Monday and post a reply.. The LR3 is up on jack stands right now and I don't want to be climbing around in it at the moment.

We were out on a trail Saturday and lost a tire. The spare, as it turned out, was a doughnut spare and only lasted about a mile before it blew out. Luckily there was another LR3 in the group and we made it home on his full sized spare. We're all trying to figure out why one LR3 had a full-size wheel and spare and the other did not. Luckily there was a dealer rep with us who was already on the phone and checking it out as we drove back to the city.
KWLR3
4/3/2006 9:12:41 PM
This past weekend I installed the Bluetooth phone kit in my '05 HSE. It works great! It paired with my Motorola, my wife's Nokia, and my son's Samsung. The voice activated dailing works as well as the other voice activated functions. No, you can't dial from the radio key pad or access the SIM directory but, it mutes the radio, reception was great, and there are no hassles with wires.

The self installation is not too difficult, just a knuckle buster removing some of the dash panels and the center consol cover. The "special tool" needed to remove the air bag is a coat hanger with 1/4" right angle bend.

The kit does not come with the base for the phone dock and the parts apparently are not available from the dealer. If fact, the instructions tell you to leave the wiring harness for the phone dock wrapped around the shifter.

A nice feature to add is a hard wired charger for your phone. Splice it onto the wires for the cigar lighter. Disassemble your charger so that you're sure to get the polarity correct.

If your going to attempt this install yourself, leave me a post if you have any questions.
gpag
7/29/2006 1:43:04 PM
im confused here could use some help. purschased an 06 lr3 with blue tooth. i was told the cradle was not changable. i would kill to get my palm treo to intergrate with the antena. any suggestions
HerbD
7/29/2006 3:09:03 PM
Hi gpag,

The cradle is actually the adapter that one needs to go between the PTI connector in the middle armrest and whatever Bluetooth phone device you want to use or have already. When I purchased my 2006 LR3 it already had the wiring installed in the underside of the lift up part of the center console. I still needed an adapter.

After weeks of searching and calling around, the correct part was at the Rover dealer. To match with a Nokia it was XVE 500021. Unfortunately, from my experience, there wasn't much further development, i.e. adapters for other phones. There appears to be one for just one or two phones in a couple of different brands, but not all models are supported. You will have to look around to see if your phone is supported with an available cradle.

The adapter not only connects the correct wires between the plug in the console and the phone, but also physically accepts the phone and holds it in place.

If your phone device is Bluetooth capable, many of the functions will work without the adapter, officially described as a holder Assembly - mobile phone.

I've just returned from a trip through a part of the Grand Canyon and the Nokia in the cradle got a signal (because of the antenna connection I believe) while my wife's Nokia (not connected to the antenna), could not. The improved signal ability was a part of why I went for the cradle, even though it was a hassle to find.

While we are driving, tghe passenger can easily use the radio readout to find numbers that are stored in the phone and make calls, although the voice activation and calling through the LR3 also works unless there is a lot of road or wind noise such as on rough roads.

Hope this helps.
nedmoore
8/19/2006 12:45:43 PM
Just to be certain, are you guys talking about using a bluetooth capable phone in a vehicle that did not come with the bluetooth option? I did not get the option, but have bluetooth phones. When I hit the phone button on the dash it says "no phone fitted". What are my options, or how do I fit the phone.
syoma
8/24/2006 5:47:21 AM
Does anyone have problems with pairing PTI system with Bluetooth phone? I have PTI installed in my LR3, and I tried a lot to pair it to my Nokia 6230i using diffrent guides from car and from http://www.landrover.com/us/en/Owners/About/Bluetooth.htm . But phone finds nothing, and radio sas "No phone fitted". I tried my phone's bluetooth on others LR3 and it worked. So i think that in my car bluetooth is not activated.
Please help! My dealer is 300km away. Maybe someone knows helpful combination of button pressing on radio to activate Bluetooth on LR3?
Thank you
PS Sorry for my English.
tmidura
9/21/2006 4:13:16 PM
Hello KWLR3

I have the same '05 HSE and I'm trying find the Bluetooth solution. I looked at the third party Bluetooth like parrot, however I would like the have the factory original installed. I read your posting and from this what I read it looks like you installed one. Can you let me know what did you installed was it factory default, where did you buy it, how much you spent, how hard was it to remove the covers on the dashboard. I know this is lots of questions but if you could help me on some of them that'll be great.
Thank you for your help.
KWLR3
9/22/2006 8:22:40 PM
Just to be clear. The '05 HSE does have a radio with the a little phone icon above the right radio knob, it does not have the two switches on the right side of the wheel (little red and green phone icons). It does not have the phone "docking station" undet the center arm rest lid (this is not to be confused with the "phone adapter", that's another dealer part that adapts a few specifec phone models to the docking staion). If that's your situation then we're at the same start point.

You need to buy the Bluetooth phone kit from the dealer. This will set you back about $500.00. The kit includes a wiring harness, two little electronic boxes, remote microphone, and a new right side horn switch with the two phone buttons. The difficulty of the installation is removing some of the interior panels. The whole interior just snaps together but, you'll think that your going to break something before it comes apart. The instructions are barely adaquate. There are two places that refer you to the factory manual, neither is neccessary. If you decide to go this route, and have any specific questions, post and I'll reply.

Here is what you end up with: a system that will pair with Bluetooth phones and allow hands free answering, the abillity to do voice activated dialing, store about 20 phone numbers, and the obvious radio mute. It WILL NOT allow the use of the liitle phone button on the radio and SIM card information will not appear on the radio. The kit does not come with the center arm rest docking station and from what I have been told, that part is not available. This means essentially that an '05 HSE will never be able to use the radio phone function

The intersting fix would be this. The wiring harnes has the connection for the docking station. Get a data cable and wiring diagram for your cell phone and splice that to the wiring harness. Now, no need for the docking station or the phone cradle adapter. I would love to hear if anyone has gone this route.
tmidura
9/22/2006 11:16:35 PM
Hello and Thank you for the fast response.

I'm only interested with the Bluetooth option, so I could be able to answer phone call and place the call using the two green and red buttons on the right side of the wheel. With this option installed would I be able to use any phone options? (chose the contact from the phone book?). You wrote that the kit from the dealer runs for about $500 - Is this just the part or includes the installation? I ask couple different dealers and they told me it will cost me about $1000. Also does this installation would require a software upgrade?

KWLR3
9/23/2006 9:27:23 PM
The $500.00 price tag is just for the parts. It would take the dealer about 2 1/2 hours to install so, another $500.00 sounds like about what that would cost. After the installation, there is no need to do a software update. You will not be able to access contact information you have stored in your phone. The voice activated system is very similier to the other voice activated functions, the same lady who who ignores your voice commands is equally adept at miss directing your calls. (just kidding, it's pretty reliable, somtimes confuses "mom" with "home")

I think this system is bassically a Nokia hands free kit which sells for aout $150.00. The extra $350 for the LR kit gets you the new horn switch. After installing, this kit, my opion is that it's worth the $500 but not $1000.00.
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