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Won't start + codes - 2/23/2008 8:16:08 PM
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crownaviation
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In short, put lots of new stuff in my 96 DI Gems recently. New computers ran great for @1000 miles if that.
Won't start, occasionally hits. Heard one small backfire through the intake on one of the attempts.
Some new parts in the last 1000miles: New fuel filter, plugs, cam and crank sensors + replaced a bad fuel pump etc.
Codes prior to erasing:
1187 Fuel/Air Metering (mass air meter?)
304 Misfire (coil pack?)
1316 Ignition or Misfire (?)
These are generic codes with a cheap off the shelf OBDII Scanner. I am atleast 200+miles from a testbook, and without a flatbed or trailer+$3.10/gal gas its almost cheaper to throw some new parts at it.
Lost...Any ideas...anyone? ...Yes the tire psi is just fine
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RE: Won't start + codes - 2/23/2008 9:35:31 PM
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okdiscoguy
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Do you know anyone up there with a D1 that would swap MAF's just to test? Might stop by the dealer to find a club...or is there not one?
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RE: Won't start + codes - 2/24/2008 4:00:24 AM
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crownaviation
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I live in DooDaa, and this thing is just short of being a spacecraft here (ranchers probably think I am gonna perform experiments on their cattle when they see it!). Kinda nice, as I am originally from Texas, the Rover folks are the only ones that regularly wave when I pass!
Wichita KS has just about everything for aircraft you can imagine but again, nothing for spaceships. Darn....
Think MAF is bad? I am thinking that is possible too, but it should atleast start with it unplugged.. right??
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RE: Won't start + codes - 2/24/2008 6:28:23 AM
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Spike555
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Yes it will start and run with a bad MAF.
This happens all the time, new ECU and now it wont run. The ECU and the security CU need to be matched up, they "talk" to one another.
There are only four reasons a GEMS will not start-low tire psi, bad crank sensor, no fuel, no spark. Everything else has a "fault mode" that will allow it to run, even with a bad idle control valve it will run if the rpms are kept above 550.
http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/GEMS/GEMSbyPoole.pdf
There might be some helpful stuff in here, at the end it listd ALL the fault codes for the OBDII.
It sucks when you live in the middle of OZ and the wicked witch of the west has your trk.
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RE: Won't start + codes - 2/24/2008 6:40:27 AM
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Disco Mike
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quote:
ORIGINAL: crownaviation
In short, put lots of new stuff in my 96 DI Gems recently. New computers ran great for @1000 miles if that.
Won't start, occasionally hits. Heard one small backfire through the intake on one of the attempts.
Some new parts in the last 1000miles: New fuel filter, plugs, cam and crank sensors + replaced a bad fuel pump etc.
Codes prior to erasing:
1187 Fuel/Air Metering (mass air meter?)
304 Misfire (coil pack?)
1316 Ignition or Misfire (?)
These are generic codes with a cheap off the shelf OBDII Scanner. I am atleast 200+miles from a testbook, and without a flatbed or trailer+$3.10/gal gas its almost cheaper to throw some new parts at it.
Lost...Any ideas...anyone? ...Yes the tire psi is just fine
First of all, how many miles on the truck, have the wires been changed yet if yes who's wires and plugs are you using and what plug gap? What octane gas are you using?
The 1187 is a heater circuit for an 02 sensor and the 1316 is an emission misfire. None of the codes is close to indicating a MAF so don't wasit your time and money there.
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(previously would not start/bad alarm CU= reason for changing computers first X). 