RE: Land Rover vs Toyota
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RE: Land Rover vs Toyota - 1/12/2006 12:44:18 AM
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MadBilly
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i like the toyoatas diff lock system where you turn the thing on the hub, i think it is cheap and it works damn well.
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RE: Land Rover vs Toyota - 2/2/2006 12:44:13 PM
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cunrya
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Just replaced my 96 Land Cruiser with an LR3, and have owned and heavily moded a 91 yota truck, so might be able to give some insight here. Trucks cheap to fix, the Cruiser, parts are as or more expensive than Rover Parts. Offroad, the yota trucks win hands down in the slop and mud. There super light and will take some serious thrashing on the drivetrain. The Cruiser great truck, very heavy, stock rear dif lock, But rather poor departure angles. Drivetrain is indistructable though and at 145K I've had zero problems with anything. Wouldn't say it would out wheel a Disco though in stock form. Love it and hated to see it go but time to update. The Land Cruiser has gone totally soccer mom recently though. Way to pluch and pricey to be a god offroader. At nearly 20K more than a loaded LR3 my decision was rather easy. Have wheeled the LR3 a bit in the last week of so and am very imressed. Short of the tire issue I don't see anything short of an H1 that is anywhere close to as capable stock. The TRS is amazing and really works well. Got it up on two wheel climbing a backhoe pile yesterday, LC wouldn't think about doing that. Toyota is really not supporting or catering to the Off-Road community these days where as LR is. But that's why Toyota is outselling everybody these days, we are a dying bread and don't really account for a large percentage of sales. Not too many people buy a new truck to wheel it these days. And LR's cost is sure to deter your average buyer from wheeling there shinny BLING BLING LR3 so I guess thats why were stuck with the crappy wheel and tire package. IMHO LR is slowly going the way of the other automakers in making what will sell instead of trying to make the average guy buy what he doesn't need and won't use his vehicle for.
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RE: Land Rover vs Toyota - 2/3/2006 2:35:59 AM
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Lighting90
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No Land Rover is not going the same way as other manufacturers, they are increasing their model range instead to cater for all groups. The good news is that the new defender will becoming stateside from what I have read todate, which means they will out perform any toyota off road in stock form, plus the mods available are huge. By the way, some said no mods are available for the LR3, you need to give it time, some things are starting to appear on the uk market fir the LR3, but it takes time for the manufacturers to catch up, the freelander now can be highly modified these days, including using lift kits etc, but it has taken time for the small independant manuacturers to develop these kits. Points to note is that LR3 is a seperate chassis to body, where as I beleive the latest version of the Land Cruiser is a monococ system. Also we are reading some interesting developments enginewise, Ford seem to be developing hybrid large size engines using ethonol, while their engine partners PSA are developing smaller hybrid electric engined vehicles, so I think we will see quit a few changes to Land Rovers line up in the future.
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